Monday, March 19, 2007

// How To // UPDATED Applying for a nursing license in Illinois

UPDATE: In Sept. 2011, IDFPR made some changes to the application guidelines that affect internationally-educated nurses. Updated information is provided after each step, where necessary.

Here's a quick rundown of the things to do when applying for a nursing license in the state of Illinois if you're a foreign-educated nurse:

1. Apply for a Credentials Evaluation Service (CES) report from the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools (CGFNS). Request for a Course by Course evaluation or the Full Education report. Download the application form from the CGFNS Web site (http://www.cgfns.org).

*** You may apply for a CES with either CGFNS or with Education Records Evaluation Services.

2. If your school's medium of instruction is NOT English, apply and take the TOEFL iBT (www.ets.org/toefl). How do you know if you're school's medium of instruction is English? Aside from trying to recall if your teachers taught in English and made you read books in English, you can ask your registrar. The medium of instruction is required in the CES report, and this part will be filled in by your registrar or dean. (See instructions in the CES handbook in the application form.)

*** In the official IDFPR application guideline, it states that if your medium of instruction and textbooks are in English, the English language proficiency exam may be waived. However, I have not seen or heard of a case where the IDFPR has waived this requirement, so you may have to ask them personally as this will be reviewed on a case-to-case basis.
*** IDFPR now accepts IELTS exam scores, aside from TOEFL. In my opinion, you may want to go for IELTS as this test is recognized as well by other regulators outside the US, such as the UK, Australia, Canada and NZ, among others. TOEFL is only recognized mostly by US-based institutions.

3. Apply for state licensure by completing an application form (http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/apply/Rn.asp) and sending it to Continental Testing Services (CTS). Before sending your application form, request for a fingerprinting card from the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation.

To request the card, you can send an e-mail to Ms. West through her mail: FPR.PRFGROUP09(at)illinois.gov. Please ask kindly when you e-mail her.

*** It's been years since I last communicated with Ms. West and I am unsure if she still works for   IDFPR, so you may want to check this first. If you have new contact information, please send me a message so I may update this information.

When you receive your card, fill it up and go to NBI Carriedo. Buy a P20 ticket at the gate and then proceed to room 604. You will be given a piece of paper which you'll show to the fingerprinting person on the 5th floor. When you're done, send the fingerprinting card to Integrated Biometric Technology:

Integrated Biometric Technology, an L-1 Identity Solutions Company
(formerly Identix Identification Services)
1650 Wabash Ave Suite D
Springfield, IL 62704

*** The NBI may have changed their fees and their step-by-step workflow. Again, if you have newer information, do share with us here.

Check IBT's Web site to find out how much they charge for the fingerprinting processing. Enclose a note to request IBT to send the receipt to CTS.

Each step requires you to pay certain fees. The list of fees is printed on the application packets. If you're in the Philippines, you can pay through bank draft. Go to a bank where you have an account and ask how you can get a bank draft. Before you go to your bank, make sure you know the exact name and address of the institution to which you'll be sending the payment and the amount, of course. Once you have the bank draft, send it together with your application forms to the respective organizations (CGFNS, CTS, etc.)

Common questions:
1. Do you need to take the CGFNS certificate exam?
No. You don't need the CGFNS exam. However, if you already have one, you can ask CGFNS to submit that to CTS in lieu of the CES.

2. Can you apply for the CES and the state licensure with CTS at the same time?
Yes. You can submit the forms at the same time, but your application won't be processed unless the initial steps are completed (CES then TOEFL then CTS application.)

3. Can you take the IELTS instead of TOEFL?
UPDATED Yes. The Illinois nursing board now accepts TOEFL AND IELTS scores. As mentioned earlier, if your CES report indicates that your medium of instruction and textbooks in school were in English, you may have the English test waived, HOWEVER, you still will need a passing English test score for the Visascreen application later on.

4. Fedex doesn't deliver to P.O. Box addresses. What address can I use to send my documents to CTS?
Here is the alternate address of CTS:

Continental Testing Services, Inc
547 S. LaGrange Road
LaGrange, Illinois 60525

Links:
http://www.idfpr.com/DPR/APPLY/FORMS/CGFNS_02.pdf
http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/WHO/nurs.asp

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Anonymous said...

Hi Geof, I have several questions on how to fill out the application form for illinois:
1. Do I need to write anything like N/A to items which are not applicable to me?

2. It is stated in the reference sheet that the fee for CTS is $79 and NCSBN fee is $200, does this mean that I need to pay a total of $279 for the application?

3. In Part I, they asked for the Licensure Method, is the answer Examination CTS, NCSBN correct?

4. What does GED in Part III mean?

5. Are short term seminars like Hemodialysis in NKI, BLS, and IV therapy included in the Specialized training in Part III?

6. Do I need to declare that I took the local board last June and still waiting for the result?

7. Where can I find the possible answers to the boxes in the Part VII?

8. Is the Verification by Licensing Agency/Board form for PRC?

9. Do I still need to pay the additional $150 even if I will be taking the NCLEX here in the P.I.?

9. Lastly, any idea as to how much is the cost of fingerprinting in Biometrics?

Thank you very much.

Anonymous said...

Hi again, already read in your article the cost of fingerprinting in Biometrics which is the answer to my last question $54, kulit noh di kasi nagbabasa eh, hehehe. Regards

Geoff said...

I'll try to answer your questions:

1. you can either put NA or leave the item blank
2. when you send your application to CTS, include a bankdraft worth $79. You can get a bankdraft from your bank where you have an existing account.
2.a. you pay the $200 to pearson vue when you register for the NCLEX exam, but you can only do that when you already have your eligibility from CTS.
3. Just write "Examination"
4. I'm not sure what GED means, but you don't need to tick that question. Just tick Yes to the question if you have graduated from high school. the GED is an equivalent degree which we don't have here in the Philippines. Leave it blank.
5. Yes, you may include those training, but they usually don't accept them in the US. So, you can leave them blank if you want.
6. Yes, you have to declare that you took the local nursing exams. It's always better to be safe than sorry later on. By not declaring it, you are liable to perjury.
7. You can leave part VII blank.
8. The licenses verification board is the PRC. Get a form from the PRC (Yellow form for license verification--Window 1 & 2, I think), fill it out. IMPORTANT: You must have your PRC license CARD already when you ask for verification, otherwise PRC won't process your application. It's a system that SUCKS big-time, but it's how they do things.
9. Yes, you have to pay the additional $150 because you will be testing outside the US.

Anonymous said...

Very enlightening Geof, maraming maraming salamat.

Nurzondmove said...

Ey! Do I still need to request from my school the course by course description for the CES?

Geoff said...

There's a page on the CES application form (part 3 or 4?) which you need to have your school registrar fill out.

There's also another page which you need to submit to PRC (if you took the local nursing board). This is the license verification page.

Nurzondmove said...

Gotcha! Thanks, bilis ng sagot, ibang level talaga.

Anonymous said...

Hi! Is PRC license a requirement in requesting for CES report? Is it true that you can take NCLEX-RN even if u dont have a PRC license provided that you are a graduate of BSN? 'Coz my husband is a naturalized US Citizen, he graduated 10 years ago here in the Philippines. He took the Phil. Nursing Licensure Exam way back then but didn't pass. Is there a chance for him to be a licensed nurse in Illinois? Thanks....

Geoff said...

Yes, a Philippine nursing license is NOT required if you wish to register as a nurse in Illinios.

HOWEVER, in your husband's case, I think there are special requirements if you haven't practiced nursing for 5 or 10 years. I'm not sure exactly what the reqt's are, but please contact the Illinios Dep't of Financial and Professional Regulation directly to ask about your husband's case. You can find the contact info here and a link to IDFPR here.

Anonymous said...

Hi! Thanks a lot for the information.... God Bless

Nurzondmove said...

Hello again, how did you apply for CES, online? or through mail? Which is better?

Anonymous said...

Hi! I'm interested to apply to Il, I just want to ask how long the eligibilty lasts and once I'm already registered how many months do I have to take the exam? Thanks...

Geoff said...

Once you get your eligibility you have one year to register with Pearson Vue, but after you register and get your ATT, you only have 90 days (3 months) to schedule an exam. Usually 90 days is enough, especially with the Manila testing center now scheduling exams.

Hope this helps.

Anonymous said...

Good enough..Salamat po ; ) More Power to ur site, It's quite impressive. : )

Geoff said...

I used the paper form, since you still have to accomplish some of the reqts through mail.

But you can choose any.

Anonymous said...

HEllo! I am planning to apply in Il. I just want to ask about the CES... Do i still need to apply for the CES eventhough i passed my CGFNS exam already?
2nd question that bothers me is that, where can I get the SSS#?
Lastly, I'm living in the province, and i'm not familiar with NBI Carriedo.Where can I find NBI Carriedo? Is in in Manila? Can I go to the NBI here in our province instead if NBI Carriedo?
Thanks!:-)

Geoff said...

You don't have to get the CES if you already have the CGFNS certificate. Just ask CGFNS to forward your certification to CTS. I'm not sure how much CGFNS charges for this service but it shouldn't be expensive.

You cannot get the SS Number unless you already have an approved immigrant application. I would focus on getting all the reqt's to be able to work in the US first because once you already have an approved visa, you will be issued an SSN.

I would assume that provincial NBI offices also process the fingerprint cards. Inquire at your local NBI office first so that you won't have to travel to Manila.

Goodluck.

Anonymous said...

thanks o lot... God Bless!

Anonymous said...

Hi Geoff,
your article was indeed enlightening, however, i still got few questions left;

1. i laready applied at CTS but unfortunately it lacks fingerprint. Last June 30, i was asked to submit them. I send a copy to my father in Illinois for him to obtain a livescan in any of the vendors indicated in the application forms. Approximately how long will it still take for my eligibility to be comeout after it has been submitted.
2. I got my CES report last week of July and it was indicated that my Language of instruction was english and english textbooks. As you said I no longer have to take the TOEFL. I took the IELTS instead and got a band score of 7.5, can I use that for my visa screen?

Lastly, can I already apply for visa screen using my IELTS and CES report on hand?

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks much.....

Geoff said...

Hi,
Are you in the Phils.? You'll need to request the fingerprint cards with IDFPR. The vendors don't have those cards. The Livescan is for those who can go to the center personally. Look for the e-mail address of the IDFPR contact person in one of my posts and request for a fingerprint card.

Yes, you can use the TOEFL iBT for the Visascreen application. However, you can't use the CES to apply for a Visascreen. You'll need a passing NCLEX score and then your English test for this.

Hope this helps. Goodluck!

Anonymous said...

yep, I am still in the Phils. I got my fingerprint card from the US Embassy. Is it alright to use them?

And provided I have already submitted them, would you know, approximately when can my elibility come out? or how long will it still take for me to wait for it come out?

What I have is IELTS and not TOEFL as an english exam.

Is it alright to use them with an NCLEX exam to apply for Visascreen?

Thanks for your usual prompt reply.

Geoff said...

Yes, you can use the fingerprint cards provided by the US embassy. When you send the cards, include a bankdraft to pay for the processing fee. Also, include a note, asking the provider to forward a receipt to CTS.

Once that's done, you may get your eligibility in two weeks or more (if all other reqt's have been met already).

If you want to register with Pearson Vue, you can do so even if you haven't received your eligibility. Pearson Vue will only release your ATT once they get the go-ahead from the Illinois board, but you are allowed to register concurrently while your eligibility is being processed.

Anonymous said...

thanks! that was really fast!

i already applied with Pearson, I was hoping to take the nclex soon.

how about my IELTS is it alright to pair them with an NCLEX passing score to apply for Visascreen.

You have been such a great help! Thanks again! Godbless!
More Power!

Geoff said...

You can use IELTS for your Visascreen application, too. :-)

Anonymous said...

Sir Geoff,

I already received my Eligibilty from CTS and registered and paid the registration fee to PearsonVue two weeks ago. I only received a confirmation letter from Vue but not my ATT.

How long it would take to recieved my ATT?

Thanks and God Bless!

Anonymous said...

Sir Geoff,

I already received my Eligibilty from CTS and registered and paid the registration fee to PearsonVue two weeks ago. I only received a confirmation letter from Vue but not my ATT.

How long it would take to recieved my ATT?

Thanks and God Bless!

Geoff said...

It should arrive anytime soon. Sometimes it takes two hours or more than two weeks. If four weeks have passed and you still don't have your ATT, you can call CTS.

Occassionally check your spam box just to check if it's redirected there.

Anonymous said...

Hi Geoff and Anonymous!
Just want to ask how long did you wait for your CES application to be sent to CTS? Did you apply online? I used the paper form.. Can i possibly chek my status online or are they going to send me an email about my CES application status?
Thanks a lot!

Anonymous said...

hi geof,
if my schools medium of instruction is english do i still have to take TOEFL???
i am planning to use ERES for education evaluation.. on the application form there's a portion that asks for STATE BOARD OF NURSING CONTACT PERSON NAME & ADDRESS.. what am i goin to write?? tnx

Geoff said...

If your medium of instruction in college was English, you can be exempted from the TOEFL score req't.

With CGFNS, theer's a code for the Illinois board that's indicated in the application packet. E-mail yur chosen service provider (ERES) for the correct code, if they have one. Otherwise you can just put in IDFPR or CTS

Anonymous said...

hi geoff!

I hope you know that you have been very helpful for us. anyway, I still have a few inquiries.
-If Illinois allows applicants to go on with their registration as an Illinois nurse, eventhough they are not licensed in the Philippines, can they apply for a CES even there is no license?
-in the IFDPR application, there is what they call a CT-NUR. It should be returned to the applicant, right? How come in the form it is written "Do not return to applicant"?
-Do I need to accomplish the ED-NUR? From my understanding, if you're an international applicant and has to submit a CES, you do not need to submit an ED-NUR, Yes?
Thanks and more power!
Oh, and I just want to share, Provincial NBI's do not process Nurse fingerprints, only the Carriedo branch does that. At least in Bulacan's case, that is.

Geoff said...

Thank for the tip about fingerprinting. To answer your question, if you don't have a local license there's no need to submit the CT-NUR which is the license verification. Just e-mail both CGFNS and CTS that you don't have a local license. Occassionally, they'll ask you again about your local license, just answer them back. And if they ask again, just tell them again. In some cases their records are not updated fast enough.

Goodluck.

Anonymous said...

Woah, that was real quick! Is it really that simple to just email them about it? I mean for one, I am planning to apply by the conventional snail mail way, and also, I will be paying them a big amount, and it will be utterly devastating to discover that in the end, they wouldnt process my application anyway after knowing I am license-less.

Bært said...

Do I need to receive first the CGFNS ID# before I proceed to filling out the other forms (request for academic records and request for validation of registration and license)? And what if I have no license yet, what should I do? I'm a June 2007 passer, but I have no license yet and haven't even registered yet.

Geoff said...

They usually answer in a day or two. and don't worry about your payment or about being unlicensed in the Phils. I know several people who've been approved without a local license.

Geoff said...

bert, you don't have to wait to be issued a CGFNS ID. complete all your documents in the soonest possible time and submit them as soon as they're available.

unfortunately, you have to wait until you have your plastic PRC card before you can apply for license verification with the PRC. once you have it, photocopy it and fill out a form at window 1 or 2 at the PRC office. ask them about Fedex delivery. A Fedex rep will pick up your documents from the PRC directly.

Bært said...

Thank you for the information! =)

liz said...

hi geoff! would just like to ask if i can use the visa screen certificate in lieu of the CES in applying for licensure ( either by examination or endorsement) in Illinois? thanks a lot!

Geoff said...

If you already the visascreen without taking NCLEX, that means you have the CGFNS Certificate, right? Then you can use the CGFNS Certificate in lieu of the CES. Ask CGFNS to forward your Certificate to CTS

Anonymous said...

hi geoff...

Im new here and this blog is what i've been looking for the past 3 mos. Iam nico, a fresh june 2007 passer. My puzzled moments regarding the application for illinois are over. Thanks to your blog.

I just want to know what is the fastest way to go through the process if I still have a tourist visa until 2009.

So do I need to apply first for a CES before jumping to the other steps?

how's the part 4 and 7 of the application for licensure filled out?

Could I pass the CT-NUR to PRC right away even if I still dont have the license?

What paper should I use for the application form? mWhat about the ED-NUR will I just leave it to the registrar's office?

regarding TOEFL,most of the schools in manila used English and used books that are written in English isn't it alreeady given that toefl is not needed anymore?

I hope that you could help me with this... thanks in advance sir geoff.

Geoff said...

Hi. I'm glad you find my blog useful. To answer your questions:
1. Your tourist visa may not help fast-track your registration application to the US. You may use it to visit the US and possibly explore opportunities, but my advice is for you to "never be out of status" there, meaning, don't overstay if you don't want to compromise your future as a nurse.

2.You can send your application for the CES and CTS at the same time, but CTS will still wait for the CES report before it issues your eligibility.

3. The ED-NUR is to be filled out by your school's registrar and then sent to CGFNS directly by the school. ***Please go to nclex-rn.net/nclex forum to ask about a faster way to do this, as I can't mention it here.

4. You'll need your PRC license card to be able to request verification of license from the PRC. Just photocopy your license and fill out a form in Window 1 or 2 at the PRC. Then ask about Fedex delivery if you want to use one-day delivery service.

5. Just use ordinary letter-sized bond paper. Doesn't matter if the print is in color or not.

6. Our medium of instruction in the Philippines is English so you won't need the TOEFL before being issued an eligibility. Ask your registrar to be sure because this will be noted in the ED-NUR and reflected in your CES report.

Goodluck!

Anonymous said...

Hi Geoff,

what if i still dont have my license with me because iam a june2007 passer. how will i accomplish the request for validation of registration for CES?

Thank you very much

Anonymous said...

hi geoff,

Is it possible if i dont send validation of registration for ces and ct-nur along with with the other documents... and i'll just send the two documents after the prc will issue the license... Would that be fine? thanks geoff... you are really abig help...

Bært said...

I have more questions... sorry for the inconvenience.

1. Is the Request for Validation of Registration/License required before I could pass my application for CES? Or I could pass the CES application even without it? And is it required (the request for validation) before they determine if I am eligible to take the NCLEX?

2. What should I write in the "Name of Diploma or Certificate in its Original Language"?

3. About the Institutions Attended, what should I write in the Secondary non-healthcare school attended? My only secondary school (college) is a professional healthcare school.

About the NCLEX Application

1. What should I write in the 9-digit zip code area of the form in Part II?

2. Do I need to fill out the #6 in part 2 if I did not have any name change?

3. What should I write in Part V? I have never taken NCLEX. I have only taken the June 2007 nurse licensure exam and passed.

4. About the CT-NUR, do I have to have the card license (just like in verification of license in CES) before submitting it to PRC?

5. And how should I submit the forms to make the most out of the available time? I do not know what to submit first then what to submit next... I'm very confused.

I'm sorry for the several questions...

I hope you could help me with these... Thank you!

Anonymous said...

good morning,

just want to ask..

who will be the report recepient for the CES report? is it the CTS?

thank you very much

Anonymous said...

hi geoff, thank you for answering our questions..

im a lil bit confuse regarding ED-NUR, on the instruction in the idfpr it is stated that ED-NUR is for those who educated in US but in continentaltesting.net it said that "All candidates must provide proof of education using the Illinois ED-NUR Form" which will i follow? by the way i finish my education in Philippines.

another thing is according to continentaltesting.net "This exam requires a double application. The candidates need to file an Illinois Application with CTS and also register with the NCLEX Provider Pearson Vue." so does it means that i have to comply 3 applications? 1 from idfpr.com, another one from continental and pearsonvue??? or just two? continental and pearson only and no need to fill up the idfpr application forms???

thank you very much for helping alot of people. God Bless.

Geoff said...

Unfortunately, you need to wait until you have your PRC license card with you. PRC won't accept request for validation without it.

Geoff said...

You should send the documents that you already have while waiting for other requirements. Although your final report will only be issued until you complete all of the reqts, it's best that you send available documents right away and pay for the service so that they can already have your application on file.

You have a year to complete everything and that's enough time for anyone. It doesn't usually take that long anyways.

Geoff said...

IMPORTANT NOTE:

You might have noticed, this comments page has been a bit in a disarray. So that I can properly answer your questions and not get my answers mixed up in someone's else's questions, please leave your name or Web alias. This way I can properly label my answers. Thank you.

Geoff said...

Baert,
1. You can send your Request for Validation at a later time when it becomes available, so I suggest you send your CES application and payment right away and then enclose a note that your Request for Validation will follow.

CTS will not give your eligibility without the CES report, so you can't take the NCLEX yet. When you get your license validation, the eligibility is usually issued in less than a month or as early as two weeks. Often there is just some delay in the postal mail.

2. Check your high school diploma. Some have KATIBAYAN written, others KATUNAYAN.

3. If you're not a second-courser or if you didn't attend any other school except your nursing school, then you don't have to write anything. For all questions that are inapplicable to you, just leave it blank or write NA

About the NCLEX Application

1. The zip code of your postal address. The 9-digit code is for US territories. We use a 4-digit code. So write your town's zip code.

2. Just leave it blank if you didn't have a name change.

3. For questions that are inapplicable tou you, just leave them blank.

4. Usually the CES report will suffice and you don't need to submit the license validation to CTS. Your CES report will reflect your license already. You can still send it if you want though. The same process with the PRC applies for license validation.

5. And how should I submit the forms to make the most out of the available time? Submit your CES Report application first with your payment though credit card or bank draft. Then submit your application form to CTS. They will both send you mail informing you of your deficiencies, which should be your license validation. Then once this is available, ask PRC to send it right away. Use Fedex if your budget allows.

While waiting, I suggest you review for your English test. IELTS or TOEFL iBT. Once that's done, go for hospital training. Then once you get your eligibility, start formal review for the NCLEX. However, you should already start studying on your own at this time.

Geoff said...

The CES report is issued by CGFNS and then forwarded to CTS. The Illinois board actually accredits two other agencies to issue the CES report, but I suggest you go with CGFNS because other states will only recognize CGFNS just in case you need your CES report for another state.

Geoff said...

About the ED-NUR

If you already have the CES Report, there's no need to submit the ED-NUR. E-mail CTS directly if you want to be extra sure. But I didn't submit the ED-NUR anymore.
Your education background is alredy included in your CES report.

Licensing with Illinois includes several steps:
1. apply for CES report with CGFNS
2. apply for licensure with CTS
3. apply for NCLEX exam with Pearson Vue (once CTS gives your eligibility)
4. apply for license registration with CTS (this is after you have already passed NCLEX)

Anonymous said...

hi geoff,

nico here, I just have some few questions about he application.

1. Is the secondary eduction equivalent to hs or college?

2.Is it still advisable to take the ielts or toefl even if it is not required for eligibility? Or it is just for future use for the visa screening?

3. does illinois require work experience or training when they hire new nurses?

4. How long will it take to receive the eligibility and the ATT? will there be ample time to work here in P.I. to have work experience?

5. how much will I put in the Part I letter A number 4 of the apllication for licensure? the fee?

6. What about part 4 and part 5 of the application for licensure? What is the best thing to do? Would it be best if we wait for our license or pass the application just to make the process moving?

Thank you very much geoff for your time.

Anonymous said...

hi! first of all i want u to know hw happy i am that ive i found your site, the procedures that uve provided really clarified all my questions regarding how to take an nclex at illinois, so i thank you, my situation is this, im a newly licensed nurse(june 2007) and since we have a large volume of newly nurses(around 35thousand)the PRC has a SLOW rate of issuing our License number/card, b'coz of this, im having second thoughts on my application on CTS or wid CES, so my questions are; can i skip the verification part of my license and just passed my application??will it not deter my application?? or being a Phil Board passer is one of d requirement for the said application??thanx!!!!
Pongsky magpayo

Bært said...

Geoff, thanks for the comprehensive reply! Thank you very much! =)

Geoff said...

hi nico,
1. secondary ed is equivalent to our high school education
2. although you won't be required to take the toefl, you will still need a passing english test score for your visascreen. you can take either IELTS or TOEFL iBT. I suggest you to take the english test while waiting for your Illinois eligibility since you have to wait for your PRC license to arrive.
3. you need work experience to get a license in Illinois. when you apply for work, however, some recruiters might require that you have work experience. so for licensing, no you don't need a license. for work, yes and no, depending on your desired employer.
4. the longest wait is for your PRC license to be available, once you have that, it'll take usually about less than a month before your eligibility is issued.
Without your PRC license, you can't work here in the Phils. You can however enrol in some training programs. Look around for programs that won't require your PRC card.

5. sorry I don't have an Illinois app packet with me right now. but if you want to know about the application fee, I think it's $79 to CTS and $54 for the fingerprint processing with IBT. Go to CGFNS.org for the CES report fee.

6. I suggest you submit your application already, and submit the license verification later on when it's available. The education report can be easily completed by going to your school registrar.

Hope this helps.

Geoff said...

nico, let me correct my answer in question no. 3. "You don't need work experience to apply for licensure in Illinois". sorry for the typo.

Geoff said...

pongsky,
i understand your predicament, but you have to declare that you took the local exams and passed. so you have to verifiy your license. this is really the right way to do it and the safest way if you wish to avoid potential complications in the future.

but I also suggest you explore other options and study them very carefully. the final decision is really up to you, but before you decide what to do, study it carefully.

arnold said...

in how many weeks will i receive the fingerprint card if i request for one now? and do i have to pay anything for the fingerprint card request? thanks!

Anonymous said...

geoff...

nico here,

thanks for the reply.... it's very enlightening. but i still have few more questions. I hope you could help me with this.


1. how long would be the waiting time after sending all the required documents to cgfns for ces report? CTS? ATT?

2.would it be advisable to enroll at kaplan this early? or i'll just stick to the plan to take the english test and then have some working experience?

3. For the visa screening, what can you suggest for me to take... the ielts or the toefl? I went to an ielts review center awhile ago and the person from the review center told me that it is easier to pass ielts... is this true? or is it still better to take the toefl becaause it's the one required by the board of illinois...


thank you geoff, I owe you alot.

NurseGanda said...

Hi Geoff, already submitted my CES application together with the payment, unfortunately what I wrote in the Diploma title is my degree not the "Katibayan" nor "Katunayan" just like what you said in your earlier blogs. I just hope this wont be enough reason to disqualify or not to process my application. May I know your thoughts about this? Thank you

poie said...

Hello Geoff. Thank you for aswering all the questions of the illinois aspiring nurses :) This is such a relief.

I have here few questions, I hope you can enlighten me with this..huhuh:

1. Can i submit now my CES to cgfns? Do i have to enclose the receipt of the bank draft? Do i also enclose my highschool and college diploma (I am a nursing second courses btw)

2. The request for academic records for CES are now sealed and ready for mailing along with the other requirements like the TOR, diplome etc.. Can i request the school to mail it even the request for validation of registration/Licence for CES is now accomplished yet ( Ive attempted to go to PRC and they will not accept the form unless PRC num/license num is available..BTW, im a june 2007 passer)

Thanks so much. Ill be waiting for your reply.

*POIE*

Geoff said...

arnold, if you request the fingerprint cards now, it usually takes at least two weeks to arrive, sometimes earlier, sometimes longer.

there is no additional fee when requesting the fingerprint card, but you have to get the services of IBT (Integrated Biometrics) or other accredited providers who will scan your cards. The last time I looked IBT charges $54 for their service.

Geoff said...

Hi Nico,
1. If you've already completed all the documents, including the license validation form, then expect your eligibility in 3 to 4 weeks in the mail. They process fairly fast and there is just some delay in the mail.
2. If you plan to go to a formal review class for your NCLEX, I would suggest that you schedule it as close to your testing date as possible. We tend to forget the things we study if there's a long gap.

Get the English test out of the way first if you expect to wait a long time for your eligibility. Enrol in some training seminars as well. Some people have trouble studying while working at the same time, so consider this option carefully. Hospital applications take several months anyway so by the time you get hired, you might have already taken your NCLEX.
3. I don't have experience with IELTS so I can't give you my personal feedback. But other people say IELTS is easier. I really can't say. Why don't you look at sample exams available on the Internet and see at which test you think you'll be able to perform the best.

Goodluck!

Geoff said...

Hi nurseganda,
Did you send a copy of your high school diploma together with your application form to CTS?
If you did, then they'll just compare it with your diploma. Often they just write the correct title and this is not an issue.

Geoff said...

Hi poie,
Some of your questions have already been answered in my earlier posts, but to guide you along, here's my quick reply.

You can already start sending your application forms, including the education form, to CGFNS. Enclose the bank draft and copies of your diplomas.

If you know someone else who's also applying for Illinois, you can send your documents together in one Fedex envelope. Just have separate brown envelopes. This way you can share the cost of shipping.

Anonymous said...

thanks geoff.... I owe you big time!!!

Anonymous said...

thanks goeff for the quick reply on my part, anyway, i hav another question,: do i need to fill up the license verification and ED-NUR on both CES and CTS application?? many thanx!!!

pongsky

Anonymous said...

Geoff said...
Hi Nico,
1. If you've already completed all the documents, including the license validation form, then expect your eligibility in 3 to 4 weeks in the mail. They process fairly fast and there is just some delay in the mail.

...
nico here,

so you mean sir if i don't pass the license validation form my application wont be proccessed? I thought I could just send the CES application with out the license validation from prc and then just send the LICENSE validation as soon as I get my Philippine License..

tyhank you very much.

Geoff said...

pongsky,
you can just submit the ED-NUR for your CES application. in my case, CTS didn't require the ed-nur anymore since i had completed my CES already.

Geoff said...

nico,
you can submit the documents that you already have and CGFNS will put these on file and assign you an ID number. But the formal review of your documents won't start unless you have completed everything, including the license validation form. so, the long wait is really only for your license validation form.

Anonymous said...

thank you sir... but i thought it is not required to be a registered nurse here in PI to be a licensed nurse in Illinois. Wouldnt it be unfair for those who took the locAl board because the process of the issuance of license will take a couple of months. What about the BSN grads who didnt take the local board.. Were they aproved by the cgfns for cesr even without the license vreification?

nico

Geoff said...

nico,
you're right, a local license is not required for registration in Illinois, BUT if you have taken it you have to declare to the Illinois board that you took the exams, whether you passed it or not. This is the "legal" thing to do. You don't want something like this bite you later when you have already processed everything. This is something you have to think about seriously if you're thinking of shortcuts.

Those who didn't take the boards actually finish their applications MUCH faster. They get their eligibility in about 2-3 months. But if anyone is thinking about hiding their license status, better think about possible consequences later on. There might be none or you could end up in a very deep hole that's hard to crawl out of. You have to weigh your choices everytime.

My friendly advice is always go for the right thing. Goodluck to you.

Anonymous said...

thanks sir geoff,

youve been really become a great help for... I'll take every piece of advise youve given to me... thank you very much....

nico.... I really owe you big time

Anonymous said...

nico here,

sir what about the option of applying for nclex in another state and just getting an endorsement for illinois after? Would that be a better option for us 2007 passers than wait for the license validation? Just to have the eligibility asap?

thanks

Geoff said...

Nico,
That's actually a feasible option. Pwede...pero.. it's a very expensive way to get a license if your end goal is to work in Illinois. If you endorse from another state to Illinois, you'll still need to secure a CES report, so you'll pay for your application in the first state and then pay for your licensure application in IL.

Actually the entire processing time to get a license in IL by going through endorsement instead of just waiting for your PRC license is almost the same. The only advantage I see is you'll probably take your NCLEX faster if your chosen state doesn't require a lot of documents.

Anonymous said...

nico here,

thanks thanks thanks.... I guess i really dont have a choice but to wait for the license.

Ill just stick to your advise to take the english test and get some training experience.

LAst... Here in PI... the instructions used and books used are english... so for eligibility we are not required to take toefl. So it wont matter ba if i take ielts instead of toefl? because everyone is saying na it is easier to pass ielts...

thank you sir geoff

Anonymous said...

wow! thanx 4 d reply goeff, im sorry to ask another question b'coz ive run down 1 of ur comments and i hope to clarify on this matter: im also a 2nd courser and i also took n passd my ece license way back in 2002, can i ask, should i need to declare to CES and CTS application that i also took my engineerng cors and license? if so, do i need to fill them up to the registrar's ofice of my skul at engineering ad license to prc??? thanx again!!

pongsky

Anonymous said...

geoff,

are there nurses in illinois who took ielts and didnt have problems for visa screening? can i take ielts instead of toefl? or would it be best if i take the toefl because it is the one required?

I saw your blog about the speak well academy... and ill be checking it out soon...

thanks...

Anonymous said...

geoff,

ive read na the previous posts... you may not reply on my last question... thanks...

USRN Aspirant said...

Hello Geoff, my case is the same with Nico, Im a June 07 passer and as you said we still need to wait for license verification from PRC. I already submitted a CES application and declared that I took the Phil NLE and passed the examination but due to bulk number of applicants my sked for Registration is on November and license will most likely be released 2 to 3 months from registration date. Have not received any response from them yet because that was just 2 days ago. Now my concern is, do I already need to submit my CT NUR application or just wait for CGFNS response first before I do the next move. Thanks.

Geoff said...

pongsky,
you'll need to declare your first course. if i remember it correctly you should put it down in the non-professional education part of the application form.
i'm not very sure about license validation for non-nursing licenses. my guess is they won't require it anymore. however, please please email cts just to be sure. you can fidn the contact info in the resources page of my blog.

Geoff said...

The Illinois State Board requires TOEFL for non-English native speakers. Filipinos are exempt from this requirement, however because our medium of instruction is in English. You must make sure that your CES report reflects this. In the education verification form of the CES application, you'll find the part that asks about your school's medium of instruction. your school registrar fills out this form.

So, you can take either TOEFL iBT or IELTS. As long as you get the required scores, you won't have any problems.

Geoff said...

The CT NUR form is the license validation right? You submit this to the PRC and then PRC will send it to CGFNS. CGFNS usually responds to your mail but it can take from 3 or more weeks; there's no definite response time but they do reply.

Like I said, you'll need the PRC license card to complete the license validation form

Anonymous said...

hi geoff,

nico here, ive just went to speakwell academey awhile ago. The place is nice and the staff is very accomodating. Thanks for your friendly advise. Iam still weighing my options if ill take the ielts or toefl ibt. can i get yor thoughts about the toefl ibt? the white guy told me that the toefl ibt is 4x harder than the ielts.

thank you very much.

Geoff said...

hi nico,
we took the toefl ibt because we were considering going to grad school in the US. but if you ask me whether ibt is harder than ielts, i really wouldn't know based on first-hand experience because i haven't taken the ielts yet. from what i gather from other people, more people are comfortable taking the ielts. i think if you're not very confident about your english skills, you should follow the advice of others and take the ielts.

pao said...

geoff,
im planning to apply for the Certification Program(CP)of CGFNS and NCLEX at the same time. ive read that the CP includes the CES. do i need to take the CP first? coz it wud be very expensive if ill apply for CP($418) and CES ($378)which is needed for NCLEX at the same time, what should i do? thnx and more power to ur site. ;o)

Anonymous said...

hi geoff,
Just want to ask please if there is/are other documents that I can send to CGFNS for CES in lieu of my high school diploma(with english translation)..THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Geoff said...

pao,
for most states, well, at least 23 states, you don't need the CP anymore. but if you really want to take it, I know that the CP already includes credentials evaluation and you won't need a separate CES application. Just pay for the CP and that's it. For states that require only the CES, you can use the CP instead.

Geoff said...

If don't have your diploma anymore, maybe you can get a certificate from DepED. Try to email CTS for more options.

mergene said...

Sir Geoff,

I would like to ask some questions:

In the CES application forms, what should I write in:

#12 Do I need to check the 'Degree Obtained' box for the Primary and Intermediate schools attended? And what should I write in the 'Name of Diploma or Certificate in its Original Language'?

#13 (Registration/License) -- I am a June 2007 passer, and I haven't registered yet.

#14 Who or what should I write here?

About the NCLEX application forms:

Do I need to write anything in Part V? I haven't taken any NCLEX in any state.

---------------

What should I submit first, the CES application?

When should I submit the fingerprint cards?

Should I first send the CES application forms to CGFNS before I send to my school the Request for Academic Records for Credentials Evaluation Service?

Thanks!

Geoff said...

#12 Just check Yes and then write the original name of your diploma. Some show, "Katibayan", others "Katunayan". Cech your diplomas.

#13 Write that you're still waiting for your license and then accomplish a License Verification form when you already have your license. Please check previous comments about this.


#14 Who or what should I write here? I don't have a copy of the form in front of me, please give more details. Thanks

Do I need to write anything in Part V? I haven't taken any NCLEX in any state.

If a question is inapplicable, just write N/A or leave it blank

It doesn't matter which documents you send first. Send your documents as soon as they're available.

Hope this helps.

mergene said...

Thanks Sir Geoff for the reply... It really is a big help.

As for the #14 in the CES application, it is for the recipients of the report. Who or what should be the recipients of the CES report?

Thanks!

Geoff said...

If I remember it correctly, the recipient should be CTS. Look for it in the application packet for Illinois.

mergene said...

ok, Ok, I will. Thanks a lot Sir Geoff!

donjon said...

geoff,

what should i check in the fingerprint card regarding the item "submit fingerprints to fbi"? yes or no?

and what should i write in the "requestor's name"?

Geoff said...

donjon,
you can leave the fbi question blank and put CTS as requestor's name. for more info, you can contact IBT directly. You can find the contact info in the Resources link.

Anonymous said...

hi geoff!which CES report should I choose-Full Education Course-by-Course Report or Healthcare Profession & Science Report? Thank you!

Geoff said...

The Healthcare and science report will do.

germaine said...

good day sir geoff. i would just like to ask about the bank drafts as payments. i do not know how to get one, and i do not know what details i need to get a bank draft. i also do not know from what bank i should be getting these bank drafts. i hope you could help me with these. thank you!

Geoff said...

Check the application packet, what info you need to put in the bank draft. For example, if the check should be made out for which agency. Then go to a bank where you have an account. If you don't have one, you can ask your parents to get one for you. Just ask the bank rep how to get a bank draft and they will walk you through the process. Bank payments are usually debited from the account so make sure your account has enough funds.

germaine said...

thanks sir geoff. but i just want to confirm something. so i need to have my own account to be able to send a bank draft to them? is it not allowed to send a bank draft which came from my parents' accounts?

another thing, is it okay if i send the academic records form (for ces) to cgfns even if i haven't sent my ces application forms? and is it okay if i send also the fingerprint cards first even if i haven't submitted my ces and cts applications?

Geoff said...

germaine, you'll find the answers to your questions above. but the short answer is, yes you can use your parents' accounts, but they must be the ones to request it. And yes, you can send your documents as they become available.

Anonymous said...

hello Geoff :)

I have here few questions. I hope you can enlighten me with all my confusion in filling out the application forms.

CES:

1. Who are my recipients? CTS and? or its just CTS?

2. In Item num 12: Name of Diploma or certificate in its original language, what shall i write there?

a. in my elementary and highschool diploma its tagalog with english translation, shall i write: KATUNAYAN?

b. In my nursing diploma, its already in english, what shall i write there?

3. in item 16c (purpose of report), what shall i check in the academic admission? is it graduate? or employment?

Illinois NCLEX form:

1. Do i need to fill up part IV Record of licensure information? if yes, shall i leave the icense number blank since i dont have my license yet, i just passed this june 2007.

2. In part VIII: child support info, what shall i answer in item 1 and 2? Yes? or No? and do i need to submit the child support form along with the rest of the documents?

Thanks so much. I hope you'll never get tired of answering all our questions.

Thanks,
SIOPY

Geoff said...

Hi SiOPY,
1. You can put CTS or Continental Testing Service as your receipient.
2.Check your diplomas, if it says Katunayan or Katibayan or if its in English, then write that down.
3. You're applying basically for licensing or you can put in employment in the purpose of your report
4. Part IV I think is the license verification. You need to wait til your local license is released (if you took the boards) and then have the PRC handle that form. Read some of the comments above for more info on this.
5. Child support does not apply to us, so just put N/A or No.

Good luck!

Kapitbahay at Kaibigan niyong Nurse said...

Hey people, I suggest before leaving a comment /question check first the previous posts because your concerns might have been already asked by others and had been answered by Geoff. Para lang di na kayo maghintay , just like me, dami ko sana questions kay Geof but when I checked on the previous posts above, nandun na pala lahat ng tanong ko with answers at least di nako nagsayang ng effort magtype at maghintay ng sagot plus na lessen din burden ni Geoff. Ano ayos ba mga Nurse friends???

Geoff said...

Thank you for your words of support. Medyo mahirap din to keep up with all the questions I get here and for other posts.

But just ask away. I can't promise that I know everything, but I can share what I know and I hope others would also share what they learn.

Best of luck to all.

Maya said...

Sir Geoff, yung CES packet may kasamang Verification of Registration/License tapos yung NCLEX application to Illinois may kasamang CT-NUR License Verification, does this mean that I need to have my license verified by PRC 2 times? Thanks po.

Geoff said...

Maya,
You can have your license verified just once for the CES.

Good luck.

Maya said...

What will happen to the CT-NUR License Verification? Ignore ko na lang? Thank you po ulit

Geoff said...

Maya,
Your CES report will already show your license verification. CTS will acknowledge that once they receive it.

You may still submit the CT-NUR, if you want, but you'll have to pay extra for the application fee with PRC and then shipping.

Alma said...

Sir Geoff,

I just want to clarify something about the Part IV of the NCLEX application form (for CTS). It is the "Record of Licensure Information" part. Do I need to wait for the PRC to issue the licenses before I could fill this part out and submit it along with the other pages, or I need to leave this behind? I have not received my license yet.

Geoff said...

Alma,
Yes, you have to wait for your Phil. license to be issued. Please see my previous comments above for more details about this.

Alma said...

Thanks Sir Geoff, but that specific page contains parts IV and V (the part V is where I should indicate if I have taken any examinations in Illinois). Do I have to leave this page behind or it is the VERIFICATION BY LICENSING BOARD/AGENCY forms that I need to leave behind (or I do not submit both of these until I receive my license)?

Anonymous said...

Hi!

I'm licensed in another state and want to endorse to Illinois.

Paano po yung process? Hope you can help me. I tried searching the Illinois board website but i can't find it.

Thanks!

Geoff said...

For endorsement, I think you still need to get a CES report, if you still don't have one or the CGFNS certificate.

Try to email IDFPR directly. They usually answer in a day or two. You can find the link in the Resources page.

darrell said...

I sent 2 emails to Ms. West for my fingerprint card request and the reply was failed. What can I do pls help. thanks.

darrell

Geoff said...

Please double check the you got the e-mail address correctly. If still unsuccessful, you can try calling IDFPR.

I've heard that you can also get fingerprint cards from the US Embassy here. You may also try that.

Goodluck.

darrell said...

thanks for the reply. This is the email ad I used that I got from your blog: fpr.prfgroup09@il.gov. Is this correct? sorry ha. thanks again.

Geoff said...

That is incorrect. It should be "@illinois.gov"

darrell said...

I tried it now the "@illinois.gov" but the yahoo didn't accept it. I think it should have letters before the @. Anyway, I'll just find my luck in the US embassy. Thank you for the time.Your blog really helps a lot especially Illinois applicants.BTW I got your blog in nclex-rn. net

Geoff said...

Darrell,
I meant, instead of using "il.gov", you should have used "illinois.gov". so, the correct email address should have been "fpr.prfgroup09 (at)illinois.gov".

NOTE: I am reluctant to write the full email address with the @ sign because I don't want IDFPR's e-mail addressed spammed. Similarly, I advise everyone to avoid posting your e-mail address online as online bots collect these information for spam purposes.

strawberry said...

Geoff, I just want to know ilang months usually bago makuha ang eligibility for Illinois?

Geoff said...

strawberry,

The process is fairly fast. The longest wait is for the License Verification. The PRC doesn't issue verification unless you already have your license card and that can take a long time. But once you have all the requirements for the CES, it can be issued in less than a month. Your eligibility will also be issued in a few weeks.

Because there is a long wait for the license verification, what we did was to submit all the other documents that were needed for the CES and while waiting, we took the English test first. This way, no time is wasted, so to speak.

strawberry said...

I'm about to claim my license tomorrow.

Hayy.. medyo nalilito talaga ako kung paano mag apply ng nclex sa IL. I already my fingerprint card.

Another question, ilang days bago mag expire ang ATT? I just want to have an idea at least mai budget ko yung review days ko. Is it 1 year ba? I read from somewhere it varies from state to state, some its 1 year others 60 days and 90 days.

Anyhow, thanks Geoff ha? Sana wag kang magsawa sa pag answer ng queries dito.

Geoff said...

strawberry,
congrats!

IL license application is pretty straightforward. there are more than one agency that you have to apply for that's why it gets a bit complicated. but whenever you encounter a problem, just post a message here and I'll try my best to answer them.

The ELIGIBILITY expires in 1 (one) year, you have to register with Pearson Vue within that time. But once, you have already registered and paid the $200 testing fee to Pearson Vue, they will issue you the ATT, which is valid up to 90 DAYS. You have to schedule an exam date before your 90 days is up.

When you claim your license card in PRC, bring the License Verification form from your CES application. Fill up the appropriate data. Photocopy your license and go to Window 1 or 2 (I think Windows 3 or 4 also) and show them the form. They will give you a Yellow Form. Fill that out and I think you have to pay for the stamp (I forgot what it's called.) Ask about Fedex shipping and they will either schedule pickup and delivery. Bring about $1,500 for Fedex services. If you have a friend who's also applying for IL, you can ask that your docs be sent together. This way, you'll be able to share the cost for mail services.

Geoff said...

Sorry, the cost of Fedex courier services is P1,500. My apologies for the slip. :-)

strawberry said...

thanks!

About dun sa fingerprint card, i got mine around october ata, di ko lang naasikaso kasi, other concerns came up kasi, ok lang ba kahit oct ko pa nakuha yung fingerprint form? Dun ba sa CES, is this the 2007 CES application handbook?

*Request for Academic Records for CES > is this the one na ibibigay ko sa school registrar?

*Request for validation of registration/license for CES > ito naman yung sa PRC?

One more thing, do I have to submit/send these forms ng sabay sabay or can I submit it one at a time, like w/ the fingerprint, di pa ako nakakapunta sa NBI, tapos dun sa CES di ko pa rin siya naasikaso, medyo nalito kasi ako tapos something came up kaya di ko pa naasikaso >.<

Thanks - strawberry

PS. i forgot, the CES form is for printing, i mean ok lang if I will download and print it then fill out the form, no need to request for a form from them? Thanks THanks!

Geoff said...

strawberry,
Yes, you can still use the fingerprint card.

You can submit your docs as they become available, they don't have to be sent all at once.

Print out all the application form, including the application form that you've downloaded from CGFNS and IDFPR.

The guide above should get you going from here on.

strawberry said...

I see, thanks again. I dont think my money will be available until next year kasi, so I'm planning just to print the form and try to complete it first.

I need your opinion, can i just do the fingerprint now & the completion of forms(CES) and send them by Jan `08, or by Jan `08 ko na lang kaya umpisahan ang pag-asikaso ko para sa nclex para dire-diretso na lang? Parang bitin kasi since it's almost dec. na >.<

thanks :)))

Mimay said...

Hello Geoff, after submitting to PRC the license verification form and photocopy of my license how long will I wait for the release? Will it be released to me or PRC will really send it directly to CGFNS for my CES application? Thank you

Geoff said...

I can't tell you what to do this time. Decisions should be made on your own and not based on what others tell you to do.

I can still help you with other concerns though. Goodluck!

marco said...

questions lang po ulit regarding illinois licensure..

hello po. sensya na po sa abala. ask ko lang po kung regarding
illinois licensure kung kailangan pa po ba magpasa ng photocopy ng
prc license card or pwede na po yung mga FORM na papa-fill up-an sa PRC.
kasi pumapayag naman po sila mag-fill up even without license card.
sa claim stub po kasi my license number na po.

tsaka hindi ko po gets yung CES form and CTS aapply simulataneously.
pano po yun? tsaka hindi ko po alam kung ano po mga uunahin isubmit. dami
po kasi form.

maraming maraming maraming salamat po in advance.

strawberry said...

uhm, quite worried lang ako kasi baka may expiration or limited time lang ang pag-apply. anyhow, thanks talaga Geoff ha? more power :) if i get confused i'll post na lang my concerns :)

Geoff said...

Mimay,
If you apply for express service, you can get it within the day. You can choose between the regular courier service or Fedex. Ask about the Fedex service. Usually, your document will be scheduled for pickup and you'll pay the Fedex rep directly.

Mary Hazel said...

Hi,
I have several questions:
#1 which application form do i have to download from the cgfns website, is this the 2007 Credentials Evaluation Service Application Handbook?

#2 if this is the form that i have to download on page 10 there is this "Request for Academic Records for CES" I have to fill up this one and give it to my school registrar?

#3 still on the same form, on page 11 there is this "Request for Validation of Registration/License for CES" I have to fill up this one again and then give it to PRC?

#4 on this website http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/apply/Rn.asp the form that i should download is Registered Professional Nurse Examination Packet"?

#5 in the above form, i should fill up this one right? but what bothers me is this CT-NUR (Verification by Licensing Agency/Board) and the ED-NUR (Certification of Education)it seems like it's like the same with the one in the CES form?

#5 if what i downloaded is correct, can i just submit "CT-NUR" and "Request for Validation of Registration/License for CES" on the same day, same thing for "ED-NUR" and "Request for Academic Records for CES"?

#6 am i going to do the right thing then or am i messing the process for application lmao? `coz i'm expecting the fingerprint cards to be delivered next week, after i received the fp cards, i'll process my nclex application.

Oops, sorry for the long post and thanks in advance :D

Regards,
Mary Hazel

Geoff said...

mary hazel,
For questions 1 to 4, you've done everything right.

For #5, just accomplish the Education review and License Validation for the CES application.

Technically, you can send the Education and License forms the same time. But you'll need to have your PRC Nurse ID ready before you can do license validation. Check out the posts above for more info on License Validation.

Mary Hazel said...

Thank you so much x10! :D

Ok, I just need to clarify something w/ regards to question #5: does that mean, I only have to complete the CES form w/c includes Request of Academic Records and Request for Registration) and "Application for Licensure Examination"from IDFR and disregard the CT-NUR and ED-NUR part? Oh my, did I get it right?

But i got confused though, I was reading the posts above and it seems like I still need to accomplish the ED-NUR and CT-NUR part together w/ the CES Form @_@;

thanks in advance.

Mimay said...

Thank you very much Geoff.

Geoff said...

mary hazel,
you can opt to accomplish just the license and education verification for the CES and disregard the same forms from the IDFPR application.

you may choose to send the license validation to IDFPR as well, but it's not really necessary because the same information will be reflected on your final CES report.

Mary Hazel said...

Sir Geoff,

Thanks a lot :D I understand already that completing all forms in the IDFR is not necessary, so I may skip some forms because of CES verifcation will already suffice. So, all in all, I made a planner already. You may want to check if i'm missing something :D

#1 Once i get my fingerprint card, i'll go right to nbi and make a bank draft and send it to IBT with a note to send it to CTS afterwards, btw, i sent an email inquring about how much would it cost, the lady said its down to $49 something

#2 If my time permits, I'll go to PRC, photocopy my license, fill out a form in window 1 or 2 and ask for fedex delivery w/c would cost P1,400 something

#3 Again, if my time permits me, I'll go the school registrar and request for the academic records.

(I am thinking of processing this 1 day, if it's possible)

But I still have some questions:
#1 Is the school, the one responsible for sending the CES academic records to CGFNS or should I send it instead?

#2 What if it will take some days/weeks before the school can process the CES academic records, then that would delay the process? If that is the case that the CES academic records would be delayed, can I still send the IDFR Application for Licensure Exam w/o the CES academic records from the school, provided that I already sent CES licensure from PRC? Or should I just wait for all the forms to completed and send them all at the same time?

#3 Are there anything else that I need to include (photocopy or original forms etc.) when:
a. I send the CES Registration to CGFNS?
b. I send the IDFR application?

#4 Is it required to use special paper or ink to print the forms? Must it be colored (for CES?

Whew! Thanks. I'm really sorry for the long post.

Geoff said...

mary hazel,
the school should send your docs, but if their policy is to let students do it, ask them to seal the docs in official school envelopes, so you can send it thru the nearest courier service. usually, from experience it takes the school a couple of days to months to prepare the TOR and fill out parts of the CES form, so I suggest to use charm and wit to convince to work faster. Har har har

Kidding aside, you can send your docs as they become available. You'll be sending the TOR, License Validation and application separately, and also the fingerprint card, so send whatever document you have ready.

No need to print in color or use special ink. Blank ink will do just fine.

Mary Hazel said...

Oh I see :D thanks a lot at least the process became much clearer :D

Thanks a lot Sir Geoff :D

Mary Hazel said...

Sir Geoff,

I called our school registrar and she said the person in charge for the TOR requests won't be available until Jan. 12 next year. Can I start my application even if that's the case?

Geoff said...

mary hazel,

yes, you can start sending the applications and your TOR should just follow.

Anonymous said...

hi geoff... nico here.... thanks for everything youve become a great help... iam now done with my ielts i reviewed at speakwell academy.. then ill go to the states by january and take my nclex in illinois.. thank you geoff.... i owe you a lot...

Anonymous said...

hi geoff.. nico here. im all set... im done with my ielts... i just need your opinion with this. I ll be a ble to send my license verification by next week from prc to cgfns.

Would it be advisable for me to send the CTS form to illinois? Ill be going to chicago on january to explore my options... Will I have problems with immigration if I already have an eligibility? Or is it better for me to just do the paper work if im already there just to be safe? Have you heard any circumstance like this? thank you... by the way... how much should I pay for the finger printing? thanks...

Geoff said...

Nico,
It's better to finish everything before you leave. This way your eligibility will be ready when you reach the US.

There have been cases where someone on a tourist visa was sent home, perhaps there was a reason for the immigration officer to suspect that the person is intending to stay in the US for work and not just to visit. An eligibility to test, or even a passing NCLEX score, will not show up on the immigration officer's computer, but other things, for example declaring that you are a nurse or other physical evidences in your possession at the time of the interview, may be used however.

Anonymous said...

nico here... ok ill be sending my application to us and the fingerprinting next week thanks... time flies... i ve met pongsky in speakwell( one of your blogger here in nursing herald) and he was also thankful for your help.... thanks a lot geoff... may god bless you with all his blessings... :)

Anonymous said...

NIco said...

One more question.... Iam now reviewing in merge urc... Is it true that photocopied materials are also not accepted in fedex? Do I have to type all the review materials just to be safe... thanks a lot..

Geoff said...

nico,
I would assume Fedex will any type of document. They normally don't go through every page of your parcel so it doesn't matter.

Place your reveiew materials inside an envelope if you wish.

I'm glad that you appreciate the information that we've posted here. This blog is not just my own but also of other people who contribute here.

Anonymous said...

nico here....

hi geoff,

ill be sending my cts on monday... what should i nclude with it? I dont have to submit the ct nur and the ed nur kasi the CES already covers the datails of these papers dba?What about the the part IV the record of licensure info and recor examination? will i just leave it blank? Where will i also put the fp-nur? with the cts application or with the finger print card? dhow much will i also pay for the ibt... thanks...

Geoff said...

hi nico,
the fingerprint card should be sent to IBT. please check with IBT directly how much their rate is now, because it might have changed.

I'll ask one of the past readers here to answer your question also about IBT's rate.

Anonymous said...

nico said...

ok sir thanks

CAn you help me this:
I dont have to submit the ct nur and the ed nur kasi the CES already covers the datails of these papers dba?What about the the part IV the record of licensure info and recor examination? will i just leave it blank? Where will i also put the fp-nur? with the cts application or with the finger print card?

thanks sobra!!!!

Anonymous said...

nico here...

one more thing sir geoff... how will be the payment scheme for cts? is it through bank draft or just with the use of creditcard. I applied online but i think theyre also requiring me to mail the papers... what should i do?

thanks

Mary Hazel said...

hi, according to ms. diana smith, the fingerprint fee is $49.25 :D

kheiye said...

hi geoff
super laking help ng blog mo.
prang b4 q toh nkita
wla tlga aqng idea on how to do things
tpos bglang *poof* adito lahat grabe (^_^)

ask q lng po if CTS pren ung dpat ilagay sa authorization something, or could it be anyone nlng? tnx subra (^_^)

Mary Hazel said...

sir geoff,

the only form that i'll be submitting to IBT is the fee applicant card(+ the bank draft and the note), and the FP-NUR(the certifying statement...) will be sumitted together with 4-page application form? thanks in advance :D

Geoff said...

kheiye,
The authorization is needed when you can't personally manage your own application. for example, i you have a lawyer or perhaps a relative whom you want to receive your documents or call CTS in your behalf.

Just leave that blank. :)

Geoff said...

mary hazel,
sorry, the FP form goes to CTS, not IBT

kheiye said...

geoff tnx so much

one more thing.. kasi ill be sending all the requirements sa CTS and CES to my relative in the US pra daw she'll be the one to submit it. do you think i should include the CES academic record with it? or should i just send it directly to CES, kasi db the school should send it. tnx so much

Geoff said...

kheiye,
Your school records should be sent by your school. however, some schools don't have their own mailing service, so you must ask the registrar to put your documents in a sealed envelope and you should send it at the nearest postal office or courier service. asking a relative to send it from the US will only create suspicions that your documents may not be authentic.

with regard to your relative sending documents in your behalf: unless your relative is enclosing a check to pay for the services, I highly suggest that you skip it entirely and send your application directly to the appropriate agencies. sending it to someone else only creates delays and opens up other risks such lost mail or crumpled forms, among others.

kheiye said...

oh ok, thats what i thot nga rin. good thing i asked Ü well my relative kasi is the one paying for everything kya she suggested na i send the documents to her. tnx so much Ü

kheiye said...

and by the way, how do you pay CTS? is it through bank dn or could it be card nlng? tnx ulet Ü

kheiye said...

last question po, hehe
should the TOR be included in the envelope with the academic records paper? or be sent seperately? thanks

Geoff said...

On second thought, even if a relative who's in the US is paying for your application, things can move faster if you send your documents directly to the appropriate agencies. Just ask your relative to call the agency and ask how or where to send payment for someone else's application.

Payments to CTS can be usually done using a bank draft or international money order, if an applicant is in the Philippines. Otherwise, a check, money order, or cash paid directly at the agency's office can be used if the person is in the US.

The TOR should be sent together with the education record forms.

kheiye said...

super thanks po Ü
hope there'll be more aspiring nurses na you could help through this blog Ü

Sofia said...

Hi Geoff.. Sofia here!

I hope you can read this and respond asap. I have a lot of queries with Illinois Licensing.

But I need you opinion on this, do you think it would be more practical to apply in states that has easier processing like New Mexico or Vermont and eventually apply for an endorsement (to Illinois) than to apply directly to Illnois?

Or please email me over at sofietiu@gmail.com

Thanks and best regards to your blog.

siopy said...

Hello Geoff..

Im about to mail my application to CTS. I'd like to ask what else shall I include there?

a. 4 page application form
b. Ed-nur
c. TOR (does it have to be original?)
d. Certified true copy of diploma
e. Fp-nur
f. bankdraft

Am i forgetting something else? Do i still need to include board certificate from PRC? I've submitted everything except for the application for CTS. Can you help me please? I want to submit everything in just one mailing, since mailing fees are very costly.

**ibt has already sent out confirmation receipt to CTS, but i havent mailed my application to CTS. Is that ok? Mas nauna pa yung fingerprint card ehehe



Thanks,
SIOPY

Geoff said...

sofia,
I've always held the opinion that it is simply better to apply directly in the US state where you want to work in. This is my own opinion and I won't tell you to follow it.

Weigh the pros and cons and then make a decision. Whatever you decide on, we'll try to help you get things organized.

Cheers.

Geoff said...

siopy,
i think the ed-nur, if you still want to send it, goes with the TOR and these documents should be sent by your school. Or if your school doesn't have its own mailing service, have your registrar place them in a sealed envelope with official school marks.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Geoff

Do i need to submit also board certificate from PRC to CTS?

Thanks again.

SIOPY

Geoff said...

siopy,
nope, there's no need for the board certificate.

goodluck!

Anonymous said...

Hi Geoff, thanks again for the quick reply...

* Can i submit certified true copy of TOR to CTS? Kahit hindi original?

I think Nico asked too if pwede na kahit hindi magsubmit ng TOR and Ed-Nur? Since CES-CGFNS will provide a copy of the report to CTS?

Thanks talaga...More power!

Siopy

Geoff said...

siopy,
if you wish to submit a copy of your TOR and the ED-NUR form,, it has to come from the school and sealed in an envelope if they can't send it on its own.

but you're right, you don't need to send the ed-nur form since your CES report will reflect the information CTS needs.

siopy said...

Thanks Geoff..

Sorry i have another question. I can't seem to find in your blog the other address of CTS..but I've seen it before. Fedex dont accept PO box address.

Geoff, can you post again the address of Continental Testing aside from the PO box?

Merry Christmas :)

Thanks,
Siopy

Geoff said...

Alternate address of CTS:

Continental Testing Services, Inc
547 S. LaGrange Road
LaGrange, Illinois 60525

sang-min said...

just want to ask when will my illinois eligibility be issued. it's been almost two months (7 weeks to be exact)now and still i dont have my eligibility. they've received my application and payment last nov. 1 ( based on fedex's on-line tracking)... i've received my ces report last nov. 8 so i assume cts also have a copy of it already. i also have a confirmation of fingerprint processing from identix. does cts correspond through e-mail? i've always been checking my e-mail but to no avail. do they send you a letter stating they have received your application requirements? i'm totally clueless about the status of my application. i'm done with my review so i really want to take the nclex soon... btw, you've been a great help. thank you very much!

Geoff said...

sang-min,
it usually takes CTS sooner than two months to process your eligibility. i'm sure there are updates to your application. there could just be some delays in the mail service. I would suggest calling them or e-mail them and ask the status of your application.

are you ready to take the nclex? since you've got most of the reqt's done, I would also suggest that you register with Pearson Vue already so that you can get the next step in the process started. Remember though, that once Pearson issues an ATT, you have three (3) months to schedule an exam.

Good luck! :)

Cacao said...

having trouble on my application for nclex
i already have my ed nur..my school gave it to me and ask me to mail it i think 2months ago..
(can i still use it or shud i get a new one)
on the instructions on the idfpr that i should instruct the licensing board and my school to send all the forms i gaved back to me so that i can mail it together with my application....
got a bit confused and having second thoughts if im doin it right my question is what should i send together with the application the ed nur , ct nur ,fp nur??
and what other forms should i send separately..
hope you can help me..happy holidays!!!tnk you

Cacao said...

having trouble on my application for nclex
i already have my ed nur..my school gave it to me and ask me to mail it i think 2months ago..
(can i still use it or shud i get a new one)
on the instructions on the idfpr that i should instruct the licensing board and my school to send all the forms i gaved back to me so that i can mail it together with my application....
got a bit confused and having second thoughts if im doin it right my question is what should i send together with the application the ed nur , ct nur ,fp nur??
and what other forms should i send separately..
hope you can help me..happy holidays!!!tnk you

sang-min said...

ei, geoff. thanks for the reply... i'll just e-mail them regarding the status of the exam... i've already asked my sister who's working in Illinois to call cts... yes, i'm ready to take the nclex-rn. i've been reviewing for 4 mos now... i'm kinda worried though if there are still available schedules for january... anyways, thanks for all your help.


thanks again,
sang-min

cacao said...

sir geoff i already check the site of Integrated Biometrics but i can't find how much is the processing for the fingerprintcard is it still $54?
tnx !!!Godbless

Geoff said...

cacao,
i agree, that part gets a bit confusing. the application forms, the education record, the license record, and the fingerprint card should be sent separately. if your school can't mail your records, have the documents sealed and mail it yourself. the license record, however, must be sent through the PRC. once you get your license verification form, you have the option of either sending it through regular mail or Fedex right inside the PRC compound. A Fedex rep comes to the PRC everyday but ask the PRC staff for the next pickup schedule. You pay directly to the Fedex rep.

Geoff said...

cacao,
The latest I got from mary hazel, another IL applicant, is that IBT is charging $49.25 for the fingerprint scanning. you may confirm that with diana smith of IBT. her contact info is in the Resources page of this blog.

Tulirong RN said...

Geoff help, completed all the requirements for CES but when I checked the status of my application thru CGFNS website, read there that they sent me a letter via standard ground mail that the date of program completion in my transcript is inconsistent with what was written in my application. If I remember it right what I wrote in my application was the date of my graduation which is April 20, 2007. In my transcript date of completion was March 31, 2007, S.O. dated April 20, 2007. What shall I do? Will this disqualify me from taking the NCLEX in Illinois?, please help me, I'm having sleepless nights. Thanks

Geoff said...

Tulirong RN,
This is a common error which usually delays the release of your CES. No need to fret, this won't disqualify you. You will need to submit another set of application forms. Check which form (CES application form vs. Education Record form) has the wrong data and re-submit those with the correct information.

Tulirong RN said...

Thanks Geof, napakalaking tulong talaga. I think its the CES Academic Records Validation, I checked the photocopy Im holding right now, on the upper portion I wrote there date of attendance is from June 2004 to April 2007 and on the lower portion filled out by our reg, date of attendance is from June 2004 to March 31, 2007. So do I get you to mean that I need to fill out another CES Academic Validation form and asked the reg to fill it out again and send it to CGFNS? What about the transcript? Do I need to send another copy? Thanks again, you're really heaven sent hehehe.

Geoff said...

Date of attendance and date of graduation are two different things. You might have been confused when you were asked about the two dates.

I'm not sure if you still need to send another form or if CGFNS would just coordinate with your school. Better to ask them directly by sending them email, which would be the best course of action at this time.

Goodluck!

Tulirong RN said...

Sir Geoff, checked again my order status in cgfns.org, to my surprise the correspondence about the inconsistencies is not listed anymore. I actually sent my explanation via their contact us last week, so most likely they coordinated with my school re the issue. Thanks talaga sayo.

Anonymous said...

HI GEOFF, MAGKANO NGA BA TLAGA ANG BABAYARAN KO SA "CES", $378? O I INCLUDE KO PA YUNG $50 PROCESSING FEE PARA MAGIGING $428 LAHAT? O SA $378 KASALI NA DYAN ANG PROCESSING FEE? CONFUSED TLGA. PLS. HELP.

Geoff said...

If you're applying for a license in IL, you can get the Healthcare profession CES report which is cheaper at $328. But if you want the course-by-course report, then that's $378. Each of these amounts already include the $50 processing fee.

The confusion comes from a recent fee change implemented by CGFNS. Previously quoted fees did not include the additional $50 processing fee. Now they've added the additional fee in their literature.

Mary Hazel said...

hello and happy new year to you!

Mary Hazel said...

hi,
did the price change for CTS? I mean, from $79 to $82? thankss :D

Geoff said...

mary hazel,
i just looked at the CTS Web site and looked at the application packet. Both says the application fee is now $82.

Mary Hazel said...

Thanks! You're the best talaga :D

Anonymous said...

Hi Geoff..

I just receive a confirmation letter from CTS and its also indicated that they havent received any docs from CGFNS yet. My CGFNS status is still "ready for review". Will there be any problem with that? I mean, ive submitted everything to CGFNS and CTS. Or shall I contact CTS about it?

Thanks Geoff..
SIOPY

Geoff said...

siopy,
that means you're almost set. there's no need to call just yet. your CES report should be ready soon and this will be forwarded to CTS once it is available.

focus on studying for the nclex instead, so that when your eligibility arrives, you'll be prepared.

best of luck!

Anonymous said...

thanks Geoff :) Is it the best time for me to enroll in a review center now?

I hope I can receive updates from CGFNS, the last notification i got from them was last December 26, 2007,

Thanks Geoff :) More power.

Regards,
SIOPY

Thank You said...

Hi Geoff,

*ask ko lang po...plano ko kc magrequest ng fingerprint card from US embassy then mag papafingerprint ako sa NBI carriedo. after ko macomplete ung fingerprinting i plan to send it directly sa CTS...possible ba itong option na to?

*sa option po na to,,, sa pagpapadala ko po ng fingerprint ko sa CTS may kailangan pa ba me bayaran since ung fingerprinting is sa NBI na... or may ibang processing p na gagawin sa fingerprint ko pagdating sa CTS na need ng corresponding fee??... salamat ^_^

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